Comments on: Is Adobe competing with their own developer community? http://www.chuckstar.com/blog/technology/is-adobe-competing-with-their-own-developer-community/ excerpts from the mind of a platform evangelist Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:40:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Anatole Tartakovsky http://www.chuckstar.com/blog/technology/is-adobe-competing-with-their-own-developer-community/comment-page-1/#comment-24499 Anatole Tartakovsky Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:08:11 +0000 http://www.chuckstar.com/blog/index.php/technology/is-adobe-competing-with-their-own-developer-community/#comment-24499 It is very difficult position for Adobe IMHO. They have to grow their business somehow, and doing it at expense of developers seems "logical" - you sacrifice small part of the "tools" market in favor of large "consumer" pool. Adobe might "feel: they need to "force" the adoption. Adobe is coming after a lot of companies in the similar situation. Microsoft very much killed any loyal following they had in 90s and 90s - with a huge backlash. A lot of companies driving adoption (especially after being acquired by larger financial backer) destroyed support infrastructure of software houses working with their technologies. Adobe has to very much play this game by carefully announcing their strategy and making sure they do not interfere with the infrastructure. It is very difficult position for Adobe IMHO. They have to grow their business somehow, and doing it at expense of developers seems “logical” – you sacrifice small part of the “tools” market in favor of large “consumer” pool. Adobe might “feel: they need to “force” the adoption.
Adobe is coming after a lot of companies in the similar situation. Microsoft very much killed any loyal following they had in 90s and 90s – with a huge backlash. A lot of companies driving adoption (especially after being acquired by larger financial backer) destroyed support infrastructure of software houses working with their technologies.
Adobe has to very much play this game by carefully announcing their strategy and making sure they do not interfere with the infrastructure.

]]> By: John Dowdell http://www.chuckstar.com/blog/technology/is-adobe-competing-with-their-own-developer-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18843 John Dowdell Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:43:30 +0000 http://www.chuckstar.com/blog/index.php/technology/is-adobe-competing-with-their-own-developer-community/#comment-18843 That screenshot of an early version of Adobe Photoshop Express, showing in-browser image-editing, came at the Photoshop World conference. Photoshop PM has the source link: http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/photoshop_expre.html That was the Photoshop/CreativeSuite group talking with a top Photoshop crowd, a simple screenshot during a demo. It wasn't so much the entire Adobe organization talking to the entire world, more a Photoshop-centric type of meeting. I shared the same initial question as you, about people who are doing their own work in in-browser image-editing in the Flex/AIR/Platform world. Bottom line, I think audience needs are growing more diverse by the day, so lots of different projects will be successful: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/09/photoshop_expre.cfm jd/adobe That screenshot of an early version of Adobe Photoshop Express, showing in-browser image-editing, came at the Photoshop World conference. Photoshop PM has the source link:
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2007/09/photoshop_expre.html

That was the Photoshop/CreativeSuite group talking with a top Photoshop crowd, a simple screenshot during a demo. It wasn’t so much the entire Adobe organization talking to the entire world, more a Photoshop-centric type of meeting.

I shared the same initial question as you, about people who are doing their own work in in-browser image-editing in the Flex/AIR/Platform world. Bottom line, I think audience needs are growing more diverse by the day, so lots of different projects will be successful:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/09/photoshop_expre.cfm

jd/adobe

]]> By: notboss http://www.chuckstar.com/blog/technology/is-adobe-competing-with-their-own-developer-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18816 notboss Sat, 08 Sep 2007 12:34:09 +0000 http://www.chuckstar.com/blog/index.php/technology/is-adobe-competing-with-their-own-developer-community/#comment-18816 Personally, I don't have a problem with Adobe creating services that compete with organizations who use Adobe tools - as long as Adobe doesn't have major advantages because of their ownership of the technology. And that's where the real problem lies. I doubt that Adobe's online services have to pay retail licensing fees to use LiveCycle ES, Coldfusion, or Flash Media Server. And we know Adobe Connect uses Flash Player extensions that are not available to other developers/organizations. We also know there are more and more internal projects at Adobe leveraging new or enhanced tools people outside Adobe know little about. Adobe wants to be a platform company and make serious money on servers by leveraging proprietary protocols like AMF they build into the player. And Adobe also wants to be an online service provider and enterprise software player and consultancy. If they don't figure out a better way to manage the tensions those desires are creating the wider ecosystem they are trying to develop is in trouble. Personally, I don’t have a problem with Adobe creating services that compete with organizations who use Adobe tools – as long as Adobe doesn’t have major advantages because of their ownership of the technology. And that’s where the real problem lies. I doubt that Adobe’s online services have to pay retail licensing fees to use LiveCycle ES, Coldfusion, or Flash Media Server. And we know Adobe Connect uses Flash Player extensions that are not available to other developers/organizations. We also know there are more and more internal projects at Adobe leveraging new or enhanced tools people outside Adobe know little about.

Adobe wants to be a platform company and make serious money on servers by leveraging proprietary protocols like AMF they build into the player. And Adobe also wants to be an online service provider and enterprise software player and consultancy.

If they don’t figure out a better way to manage the tensions those desires are creating the wider ecosystem they are trying to develop is in trouble.

]]> By: Debabrata Acharjee http://www.chuckstar.com/blog/technology/is-adobe-competing-with-their-own-developer-community/comment-page-1/#comment-18812 Debabrata Acharjee Sat, 08 Sep 2007 12:07:11 +0000 http://www.chuckstar.com/blog/index.php/technology/is-adobe-competing-with-their-own-developer-community/#comment-18812 Looking forward to read Adobe's stand on the question you raised! Looking forward to read Adobe’s stand on the question you raised!

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